properties that have barriers to entry, but that will also benefit from growth as people move into houston, to dallas, to southern california, to san francisco area, et cetera. we've been in the industrial business for a long time, and we liked it. but it was clear to us that the market wanted a more pure focused company. and it made sense as part of the overall focus. plus, as you mentioned, leverage is very important. and we wanted to lower our leverage. >> right. >> it made sense to part with the industrial, even though it's good properties, good people there, and focus again on quality, supermarket anchored retail in the major metro areas in 12 growing states. >> one of the things i loved about your presentation and also your conference call is you are not -- you're willing to face head-on the challenge of amazon. you directly -- you're the first real estate investment trust who says, listen, here's the ones that the internet can't get. you recognize the threat is a real one. >> i think it's a real threat. i think we were very conservative in how we came up with our number that we thin